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Sunday, December 3, 2017

The LRT Thing

Metrolinx's recent decision to punt the decision as to whether to allow HSR/ATU to run LRT, back to city council has been fraught with controversy. While the decision has been referred back to Hamilton City council, that direction was laced with dire warnings about the risks of hard wiring the running of LRT to HSR.

Much of these concerns are amplified in Andrew Dreschel of The Hamilton Spectators's opinion piece, which can be seen here. Andrew's piece entitled Councillors Should Say No to HSR Running LRT, makes it pretty clear where he stands on this.

While Dreschel's piece lands as it piggybacks on Metrolinx's warnings, Andrew's suggestion that Metrolinx would retain ownership of the system, thereby  having it remain in the public's hands, may not be compelling to some. While the statement is true that Metrolinx's ownership denotes it as being in public hands,  Hamiltonians may not find comfort in that. Referring to a provincial agency that will have interests and responsibilities beyond Hamilton's LRT, is not the same as a locally run system. The proximity effect has force in this. We're not suggesting one or the other is the better option; only that the comparison may not hold as nicely.

The decision as to realize the benefits and risks of privatization is also not a slam dunk. There are many variables to consider. Among them:

What is the track record of agencies such as Metrolinx specifically, and the privatization of public services more generally, location specific and otherwise. We are not suggesting a grade here or rendering a judgment; only that the question should be considered. 

To what degree should we empower a consortium? 

Are there creative solutions that we have yet to consider? For example, is it really a HSR vs. private operator decision? Or can it be privately operated initially, dovetailing into a planned handoff to HSR once certain preconditions regarding readiness are met? Surely that can be contractually cast. Would such a provision be necessary? 

What is the potential cost of litigation, if pieces of a consortium's deliverables fall astray or are otherwise at issue. (we have local examples to refer to).

How much profit is in the for profit model and how does that variable play in the mix.

Were HSR/ATU's interests given enough attention at the onset, and is part of this a hard lesson learned in retrofitting a major stakeholder to the extent that they ought to have been included in early talks? Certainly, if one reads ATU Local 107 President Eric Tuck's past interviews in The Hamiltonian, there is a clear sense that ATU believes that they were not consulted early enough, in a meaningful way.

All this to say that the LRT thing, and more specifically, the decision as to whether to allow HSR/ATU to operate the system is not a simple matter. Nor should it be playing out this late in the process. 

The Hamiltonian

18 comments:

  1. The HSR is free to bid on this project like any other person is. Why on earth would they get it by default when they are unable to run the HSR properly? That will definitely leave the LRT as unsustainable.

    ~ Mountain Man

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    1. You believe the HSR "runs" the HSR?
      You believe the HSR sets it's own budget, makes it's own staffing requirements,and determines unto itself how and when it will operate?
      That's quite a perspective Mountain Man.
      If HSR had half the authority you seem to think they possess-hell, if they had even been included in the discussion-transit would be in far greater shape today then we find it.
      I truly believe "we" would be better served if Council were removed from negotiations and replaced with some sort of transit commission.

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  2. FWIW, GO Trains have been operated by Bombardier since 2007. They manage to operate according to a schedule, which is a crucial metric of operational competence.

    Jolley Cut

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  3. Teresa et el. I think you've hit the bullseye and mentioned something that others don't seem to clue in to.

    "Were HSR/ATU's interests given enough attention at the onset, and is part of this a hard lesson learned in retrofitting a major stakeholder to the extent that they ought to have been included in early talks?"

    Bingo! A failure in stakeholder management is a recipe for failure. With an election looming, LRT may very well still die a good death. You heard it here first.
    Sorce

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  4. President of Amalgamated Transit Union Local 107 Eric Tuck announced that his membership voted 86% in-favour of accepting a new 4-year deal with the City of Hamilton. The Agreement will provide Transit Riders with continued Transit Service which Tuck said should be Safer and more Reliable under the terms that the Union negotiated.

    “We negotiated clear language on Safe and Reasonable Schedules. This, along with the funding commitments from City Council, should start to address some of the long standing schedule problems we have been experiencing over the last ten years,” says Tuck.

    https://atu107.com/amalgamated-transit-union-local-107-approves-new-4-year-collective-agreement/

    Verbatim

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    1. "the City had better address the deteriorating road conditions or they may see higher levels of absenteeism...."

      How's that for an accurate forecast? Like looking into a crystal ball.

      Noted

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    2. Another good reason to be happy about LRT.

      PROACTIVE

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    3. yes, the City's demonstrated history of neglect and irresponsibility on "all things transit" are good reasons to be happy.
      Happy as a clam.

      Paul Johnson? Gone.
      Mayor Fred left off of the Premiers Transit Committee.

      These too, are reasons to be happy.
      Writing on the wall.

      Credible.

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  5. there is really only one reason the "HSR issue" came to bear so late in the process.
    Matthew Green.
    Hamilton's self described transit champion.
    "I take the bus"
    Some might think a transit champion-who takes the bus-would be aware of chronic staff absenteeism,operators working 3 "extra" shifts per week to keep things moving, low moral, poor service,.....and do something about it...proactively.
    Not this champion.
    He is not even certain when to raise his hand, or what he is endorsing.
    HSR/ATU need better friends.Someone with influence. Someone credible.

    orangemike

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    1. Rapid transit debate has been ongoing in Hamilton since 2008 (21 rounds of public consultation), and council submitted its case to the province in February 2013. Councillor Green was sworn in three years ago this week. ATU 107 has been representing local transit workers since 1892, but has been essentially invisible in municipal politics except when a collective agreement is running out. Small wonder that transit users don't trust anyone on the local transit file within a mile of LRT.

      Jules Kelvin

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    2. I am a transit user, involved with the transit file since 2008, and I think LRT will do absolutely nothing to improve transit.
      Nothing.
      21 rounds of public consultation.
      And the majority are convinced.
      LRT is nonsense.

      "I wouldn't say my support is conditional"

      "I really don't care, one way or another"

      3 years, you say? Seems longer.

      orangemike

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  6. "I am not wholly comfortable with operators working 70 hours a week" added Councilor Green, mere minutes after voting in favour of the "solution"

    orangemike

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  7. "you know what, if we were to do a poll on this, I'd be willing to bet the community at large would say 'no' because they don't understand the entire complexity of what we're dealing with"
    "That's why we are the leaders in the community that gets to understand the full picture and the benefits and what we are trying to prevent and who we are trying to help." Hamilton Spectator, 12/6/17

    A look inside the inner workings of Mayor Fred's vision. Public service is distasteful to Fred,leading us all where we do not want to go is where it's at.
    Municipal "Remembrance Day" fast approacheth.
    Lest we forget.

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  8. Nothing like 11th hour advocacy. The City, HST and ATU 107 are looking more and more like Moe, Larry and Curly.

    At least Gilbert's invested in a new sign.

    Bowlerama

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    1. 11th hour advocacy which garners more public support than 10 years of careful "planning"
      A finger in the eye for LRT zealots.
      Timing is critical comrades.

      Shemp

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    2. The main thing is that everyone is excited about investing in rapid transit. Will be interesting to see what kind of contract Metrolinx gets the local to sign and how that impacts the local's CAs with the City.

      Polski Ogorki


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  9. And now our pal from Ward 3 has reconsidered his alliance with HSR.
    "it's no surprise that I'm a strong supporter in ATU and the HSR"
    " I don't buy the fear, doom and gloom that this is going to take it off track"
    " I've got my helmet on, and I'm all strapped up" CBC Hamilton 08/08/17

    This is how Matthew treats his "friends" It
    will be interesting now to see how those friends treat Matthew.I have a hunch his time spent riding the bus is about to get far more interesting.
    Sub-conscious drive-by's.
    All aboard.

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  10. "when asked if LRT can be stalled or even stopped at this stage, Eisenberger said
    anything can happen
    it happened in Ottawa,it's possible here. The next Council we need to finalize LRT on a simple majority vote"
    Easier said, then done.
    "We will have to put our case forward to be clear about the benefits of LRT and why it is important for our City"
    Won't that be fun? Perhaps they have revised the Metrolinx BCA to include more ridiculous assumptions and imaginary outcomes.
    Why hasn't that been done already?
    Silk purse, meet sows ear.

    Kitchener-Waterloo's class action lawsuit brought on by business' who have been negatively impacted by the "vision" now numbers well over 200 plaintiffs.
    Fred is quite confidant we can inflict even more harm in Hamilton.

    Ask your Councilor to detail the perceived benefits of LRT to the taxpayer and/or transit user.Demand a tangible result, refute hypothetical daydreaming.Remove those unable to qualify their support on real benefits
    Time for a fresh slate.

    Monde

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